Explorer 8.06

[jlynny28]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at? In previous
web browsers it was handy and if you were building a web page you could check
it to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly. It
would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[Might I suggest that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way
up?]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?...

[jlynny28]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
[Might I suggest that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way
up?]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?...

.

[VanguardLH]

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?...

Might I suggest that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way
up?

<empty body in jlynny's first reply>

Couldn't quite figure out what to say in your first blurt, huh?

[jlynny28]

It would help if you would act like an adult about a problem buster. Instead
of being so arrogant.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
[Might I suggest that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way
up?]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?...

.

[VanguardLH]

[NOTE: In my reply, the order of posts were not arranged to match the
quoting order of my reply. This was to exemplify the laziness of the
respondent.]

Post by jlynny28
It would help if you would act like an adult about a problem buster. Instead
of being so arrogant.

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
[Might I suggest that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way
up?]

I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?...

.

Advice from someone too lazy to arrange the quoted posts in the SAME order
as they choose for their top- or bottom-posting style. Whether you prefer
top- or bottom-posting, do the SAME with all the quoted posts included in
your reply. You create a jumbled mess of quoted posts when you leave them
in jumbled order.

[VanguardLH]

[NOTE: Only replying to this near 1-month post because the OP was still
monitoring it as evidenced by his long overdue replies.]

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?

That would be WHAT page "information"?

Post by jlynny28
In previous web browsers it was handy

Of IE, or some other web browser? You said "previous web browsers", not
"previous versions of IE".

Post by jlynny28
and if you were building a web page you could check it

You still haven't said what "it" is. So why not use the same software to
view the page "information" that you used to build the web page?

Post by jlynny28
to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly.

You asking on how to see the HTML code for a web page? What happens when
you right-click on the page and select View Source? Internet Options ->
Programs shows what HTML editor you elected as the default. Notepad is
usually the default.

Post by jlynny28
It would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.

Well, that wouldn't be notepad. Guess you'll have to install that 3rd party
HTML editor that you were using before.

IE8 includes its Developer Tools utility to see the content of a web page.
This was NOT available in prior version. You have the View Source option
from the document's context menu but that merely load the page into whatever
you configured as the default HTML editor in Internet Options' under the
Programs tab. Windows doesn't come with a fancy color coding, automatically
indenting HTML editor, and that's why the default was Notepad (because HTML
is just text with tags). You were using some 3rd party HTML editor. Either
it isn't compatible with IE8 or you need to re-install it.


--- Posting Hints ---

ALWAYS REVIEW your message before submitting it. You want someone OTHER
than yourself to understand your post. Also remember that no one here is
looking over your shoulder to see at what you are pointing. If you don't
well explain your situation by providing the details that you already know,
don't expect others to know what is your situation. Explain YOUR computing
environment and just what actions you take to reproduce the problem.

Often you get just one chance per potential respondent to elicit a reply
from them. If they skip your post because you gave them nothing to go on
(no details, no versions, no OS, no context) then they will usually move on
to the next post and never return to yours.

What is Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp

When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities or
Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet.
Despite the appearance of a forum, you are still participating in a
newsgroup (Usenet).

How to post to newsgroups:
http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml

Regarding error or status messages:
- Do NOT omit the message.
- Do NOT describe the message.
- Do NOT summarize the message.
- Do NOT paraphrase the message.
- Do NOT truncate the message.
- Do show the ENTIRE message (but munge or star out personal info,
like your username in an e-mail address but not the domain).
- Provide sufficient context on when the error occurs or how to
reproduce it.

[jlynny28]

Do guys feel it necessary to arbitrarily decide someone needs to be treated
like a fool. "The customer is always right."
A simple reply of, "Please clarify your question more, certain syntax are
misused."

The above sentence is more polite than the way I was orginally answered.

If I was your employer you would be written up for mistreatment of your
customers.

"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble themselves and learn to
phrase things and show some respect to your customer or possible customer.

Post by VanguardLH
[NOTE: Only replying to this near 1-month post because the OP was still
monitoring it as evidenced by his long overdue replies.]

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?

That would be WHAT page "information"?

Post by jlynny28
In previous web browsers it was handy

Of IE, or some other web browser? You said "previous web browsers", not
"previous versions of IE".

Post by jlynny28
and if you were building a web page you could check it

You still haven't said what "it" is. So why not use the same software to
view the page "information" that you used to build the web page?

Post by jlynny28
to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly.

You asking on how to see the HTML code for a web page? What happens when
you right-click on the page and select View Source? Internet Options ->
Programs shows what HTML editor you elected as the default. Notepad is
usually the default.

Post by jlynny28
It would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.

Well, that wouldn't be notepad. Guess you'll have to install that 3rd party
HTML editor that you were using before.
IE8 includes its Developer Tools utility to see the content of a web page.
This was NOT available in prior version. You have the View Source option
from the document's context menu but that merely load the page into whatever
you configured as the default HTML editor in Internet Options' under the
Programs tab. Windows doesn't come with a fancy color coding, automatically
indenting HTML editor, and that's why the default was Notepad (because HTML
is just text with tags). You were using some 3rd party HTML editor. Either
it isn't compatible with IE8 or you need to re-install it.
--- Posting Hints ---
ALWAYS REVIEW your message before submitting it. You want someone OTHER
than yourself to understand your post. Also remember that no one here is
looking over your shoulder to see at what you are pointing. If you don't
well explain your situation by providing the details that you already know,
don't expect others to know what is your situation. Explain YOUR computing
environment and just what actions you take to reproduce the problem.
Often you get just one chance per potential respondent to elicit a reply
from them. If they skip your post because you gave them nothing to go on
(no details, no versions, no OS, no context) then they will usually move on
to the next post and never return to yours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities or
Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet.
Despite the appearance of a forum, you are still participating in a
newsgroup (Usenet).
http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml
- Do NOT omit the message.
- Do NOT describe the message.
- Do NOT summarize the message.
- Do NOT paraphrase the message.
- Do NOT truncate the message.
- Do show the ENTIRE message (but munge or star out personal info,
like your username in an e-mail address but not the domain).
- Provide sufficient context on when the error occurs or how to
reproduce it.
.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

No one here represents or works for Microsoft, including MVPs.

Post by jlynny28
Do guys feel it necessary to arbitrarily decide someone needs to be treated
like a fool. "The customer is always right."
A simple reply of, "Please clarify your question more, certain syntax are
misused."
The above sentence is more polite than the way I was orginally answered.
If I was your employer you would be written up for mistreatment of your
customers.
"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble themselves and learn to
phrase things and show some respect to your customer or possible customer.

Post by VanguardLH
[NOTE: Only replying to this near 1-month post because the OP was still
monitoring it as evidenced by his long overdue replies.]

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at?

That would be WHAT page "information"?

Post by jlynny28
In previous web browsers it was handy

Of IE, or some other web browser? You said "previous web browsers", not
"previous versions of IE".

Post by jlynny28
and if you were building a web page you could check it

You still haven't said what "it" is. So why not use the same software to
view the page "information" that you used to build the web page?

Post by jlynny28
to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly.

You asking on how to see the HTML code for a web page? What happens when
you right-click on the page and select View Source? Internet Options ->
Programs shows what HTML editor you elected as the default. Notepad is
usually the default.

Post by jlynny28
It would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.

Well, that wouldn't be notepad. Guess you'll have to install that 3rd
party HTML editor that you were using before.
IE8 includes its Developer Tools utility to see the content of a web page.
This was NOT available in prior version. You have the View Source option
from the document's context menu but that merely load the page into
whatever you configured as the default HTML editor in Internet Options'
under the Programs tab. Windows doesn't come with a fancy color coding,
automatically indenting HTML editor, and that's why the default was
Notepad (because HTML is just text with tags). You were using some 3rd
party HTML editor. Either it isn't compatible with IE8 or you need to
re-install it.
--- Posting Hints ---
ALWAYS REVIEW your message before submitting it. You want someone OTHER
than yourself to understand your post. Also remember that no one here is
looking over your shoulder to see at what you are pointing. If you don't
well explain your situation by providing the details that you already know,
don't expect others to know what is your situation. Explain YOUR computing
environment and just what actions you take to reproduce the problem.
Often you get just one chance per potential respondent to elicit a reply
from them. If they skip your post because you gave them nothing to go on
(no details, no versions, no OS, no context) then they will usually move on
to the next post and never return to yours.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities or
Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet.
Despite the appearance of a forum, you are still participating in a
newsgroup (Usenet).
http://66.39.69.143/goodpost.htm
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.html
http://www.mugsy.org/asa_faq/getting_along/usenet.shtml
- Do NOT omit the message.
- Do NOT describe the message.
- Do NOT summarize the message.
- Do NOT paraphrase the message.
- Do NOT truncate the message.
- Do show the ENTIRE message (but munge or star out personal info,
like your username in an e-mail address but not the domain).
- Provide sufficient context on when the error occurs or how to
reproduce it.
.

[VanguardLH]

Post by jlynny28
Do guys feel it necessary to arbitrarily decide someone needs to be
treated like a fool. "The customer is always right."

Oh, you are our customer? Okay. How much should we bill you? We could
charge you $49.95 for the first call up to 10 minutes, charge an additional
fee thereafter for every 1-minute increment in our research time, and $9.99
for each additional reply post that we submit to the thread.

Bwaaahaaahaaa. A user that thinks anyone here actually "works" for him.

Post by jlynny28
A simple reply of, "Please clarify your question more, certain syntax are
misused."

Hence the canned portion of my reply that indicates what is Usenet,
especially needed for those that may not be aware that Microsoft's "forum"
is just a gateway to Usenet along with articles on how to post to Usenet,
like providing the needed details.

Post by jlynny28
If I was your employer you would be written up for mistreatment of your
customers.

Again, reread my prior reply which explains what is Usenet. No one employs
anyone else here. If you knew what was Usenet then you wouldn't make such a
childish proclamation. Even forums are nothing that user groups where the
software vendor has no presence. You asking for help from a peer community
of users. No one is earning an income here, no one here works for anyone
else, and they certainly don't work for a freeloading user asking questions
for free from volunteer participants. You asked for help, you aren't paying
for it, so you get to command anything regarding the content of the replies.

Post by jlynny28
"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble themselves and learn to
phrase things and show some respect to your customer or possible customer.

Again, reread my prior reply that has articles on WHAT is Usenet. It is an
anarchy of *users* ... just like you.

[jlynny28]

If you use Mozilla Firefox version 3.5.1, you will find that under the Tools
menu, a submenu, called page information. This is a great feature as the
window displays the Meta tags in a clear and concise way. So the average user
of the browser can check to see, and learn more about a page. They can see
what the original web page developer listed that brought them to that page.
It is great if you are a marketer and doing research. A feature that I
thought MS may want to include in Explorer.

I am sorry if you feel compelled to treat people poorly, everyone deserves
to be treated politely and not berated with comments like, “Might I suggest
that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way up?” This
statement alone is offensive, and while your people maybe in a hurry, have
you stopped to consider the individual asking the question is in a hurry
also. The phrase, “I’m sorry, but could you please clarify your question
more, certain syntax are misused.” This is all that is required. Treat people
with respect.

The following statement was also made, “Advice from someone too lazy. . .”
is also demeaning refrain from the word “lazy” in text. Can you not conduct
yourselves in a more professional way and not offend people? This is the
Internet and things are posted right out there for the whole world to see.

"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble him or her selves and
learn to phrase things and show some respect to the public and or potential
customers.

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at? In previous
web browsers it was handy and if you were building a web page you could check
it to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly. It
would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.

[VanguardLH]

Post by jlynny28
If you use Mozilla Firefox version 3.5.1, you will find that under the Tools
menu, a submenu, called page information. This is a great feature as the
window displays the Meta tags in a clear and concise way. So the average user
of the browser can check to see, and learn more about a page. They can see
what the original web page developer listed that brought them to that page.
It is great if you are a marketer and doing research. A feature that I
thought MS may want to include in Explorer.

Check the Developer Tools in IE8. It might have what you want. You could
see if Fiddler2 has better content (and it works with all web browsers since
it runs as a proxy).

Don't expect every web browser to have the features of all other web
browsers. If that were true, they would all be the same web browser which
means there would only be one web browser. For example, PDF-Xchange gives
me all the features of Adobe Reader but with the additional features of
being able to edit or annotate the content whereas I don't need to spend a
huge sum on Adobe's Acrobat. You pick the software that has the features
you want. If Firefox has what you need then use that. If you want a
minimal UI for the web browser (that users can't fuck over too bad) along
with the fastest Javascript interpreter (especially helpful for AJAX-enabled
web applications) then you go with Chrome.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

<yawn>

Post by jlynny28
If you use Mozilla Firefox version 3.5.1, you will find that under the Tools
menu, a submenu, called page information. This is a great feature as the
window displays the Meta tags in a clear and concise way. So the average
user of the browser can check to see, and learn more about a page. They
can
see what the original web page developer listed that brought them to that
page. It is great if you are a marketer and doing research. A feature that
I
thought MS may want to include in Explorer.
I am sorry if you feel compelled to treat people poorly, everyone deserves
to be treated politely and not berated with comments like, “Might I suggest
that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way up?” This
statement alone is offensive, and while your people maybe in a hurry, have
you stopped to consider the individual asking the question is in a hurry
also. The phrase, “I’m sorry, but could you please clarify your question
more, certain syntax are misused.” This is all that is required. Treat
people with respect.
The following statement was also made, “Advice from someone too lazy. . .”
is also demeaning refrain from the word “lazy” in text. Can you not conduct
yourselves in a more professional way and not offend people? This is the
Internet and things are posted right out there for the whole world to see.
"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble him or her selves and
learn to phrase things and show some respect to the public and or potential
customers.

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at? In previous
web browsers it was handy and if you were building a web page you could
check it to see if you put programed or wrote certain information
correctly. It would let you see the keywords you assigned it and
everything.

[rob^_^]

F12 to display the Developer tool which has the DOM tree. Under the Head
node your will find the meta tags.

Post by jlynny28
If you use Mozilla Firefox version 3.5.1, you will find that under the Tools
menu, a submenu, called page information. This is a great feature as the
window displays the Meta tags in a clear and concise way. So the average user
of the browser can check to see, and learn more about a page. They can see
what the original web page developer listed that brought them to that page.
It is great if you are a marketer and doing research. A feature that I
thought MS may want to include in Explorer.
I am sorry if you feel compelled to treat people poorly, everyone deserves
to be treated politely and not berated with comments like, “Might I suggest
that you start with Remedial English 101 and work your way up?” This
statement alone is offensive, and while your people maybe in a hurry, have
you stopped to consider the individual asking the question is in a hurry
also. The phrase, “I’m sorry, but could you please clarify your question
more, certain syntax are misused.” This is all that is required. Treat people
with respect.
The following statement was also made, “Advice from someone too lazy. . .”
is also demeaning refrain from the word “lazy” in text. Can you not conduct
yourselves in a more professional way and not offend people? This is the
Internet and things are posted right out there for the whole world to see.
"Attitude is everything." Someone needs to humble him or her selves and
learn to phrase things and show some respect to the public and or potential
customers.

Post by jlynny28
I want to learn the where I can view the page information at? In previous
web browsers it was handy and if you were building a web page you could check
it to see if you put programed or wrote certain information correctly.
It
would let you see the keywords you assigned it and everything.