Internet Explorer 8 throws out MS Publisher websites...

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shortmangle

2009-05-07 17:44:01 UTC

I uploaded IE8 and suddenly a number of my MS Publisher websites Navigation
Bars disappeared! Despite trying everything, I could not see the navigation
bars on the live websites, therefore meaning noone using IE8 would be able to
navigate round my sites. They had been working perfectly under IE7. I can
therefore thoroughly recommend NOT updating to IE8; I had to download Mozilla
Firefox browser to be able to view my websites in their entirity again;
navigation bars are back (and they work) on both websites. Can someone tell
me how is it that Microsoft can muck up its own product by producing another
one - and another one that was not needed in the first place - do they not
have any quality control?? I can understand if Microsofts new product knocked
out the opposition, but this was definitely a home goal!

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K.T.

2009-05-13 17:30:05 UTC

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this also happened to my website created in Microsoft Publisher 2007. I had
to revert to IE 7 but this is concerning due to the fact that my customers
may have downloaded it and now cannot use my website

Post by shortmangle
I uploaded IE8 and suddenly a number of my MS Publisher websites Navigation
Bars disappeared! Despite trying everything, I could not see the navigation
bars on the live websites, therefore meaning noone using IE8 would be able to
navigate round my sites. They had been working perfectly under IE7. I can
therefore thoroughly recommend NOT updating to IE8; I had to download Mozilla
Firefox browser to be able to view my websites in their entirity again;
navigation bars are back (and they work) on both websites. Can someone tell
me how is it that Microsoft can muck up its own product by producing another
one - and another one that was not needed in the first place - do they not
have any quality control?? I can understand if Microsofts new product knocked
out the opposition, but this was definitely a home goal!
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rob^_^

2009-05-15 21:31:01 UTC

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Hi shortmangle and KT,

Here is my response and answer to another Publisher site owner. There IS an
issue with XP/IE8 only. Can you give us your web site address for us to have
a look at and to confirm it is the same issue?
Hi Sully,

Thanks for the link.

I can view the menu images and all other images fine on Vista x86 and XP/SP3
IE6, but not on an XP/SP3 IE8 virtual image. The difference is that I have
MS Office installed only on the Vista machine.

You have conditional comments for MS Office

<!--[if gte mso 9]>
and for VML
<!--[if gte vml 1]>

(IE8 on XP is not recognizing these conditional comments, while IE8 on Vista
x86 does. This is an issue/bug.)

To correct your pages for XP machines running IE8.

1. Make a backup of your website somewhere on your computer (FTP it from
your web site)

2. Open up your site in IE8. Start with your homepage... Index.htm

3. Press F12 to display the Developer Tool. You should see that the browser
mode is IE8 and the Document Mode is Quirks. Select the File>Customize
Internet Explorer View Source>Default Viewer to ensure you have the color
coded built-in editor selected.

4. Select View>Source from the IE8 menu to open the Editor.

5. Save a copy of the markup to a text file. From the editor File>Save
Source (select as txt file extension). Open the saved file up with notepad
(default txt file type editor) and display the Source Viewer and Notepad
windows side by side for comparison.

Using the Notepad copy you have to find and delete those sections of code
that are appearing as Green in color in the Source Viewer. viz. those blocks
of code within the <!--[if gte mso 9]> and <!--[if gte vml 1]> conditional
comment blocks.

Once you have removed those blocks, save the notepad version as a htm file
and then ftp it back to your server to over-write your sever copies.

Do the same for all the htm files on your site, nothing else has to change
(images and links etc.).

If this seems too much effort, then you may consider hiring an
under-graduate or student to do it for you. (Print a copy of this thread to
instruct them as to what to do.) There is no real hurry as the uptake of IE8
by users will take some time and your site will currently display fine in
IE6 and 7 and in 8 on Vista. Other browsers (that have a small market share)
are un-affected by conditional comments, they ignore the blocks.

Ultimately though you should upgrade your site using a more modern editing
program. Perhaps another job for a struggling student or maybe your kids.

Can you leave you site unchanged for a week or two? The good folks at MS
will see this thread and may like to test it themselves. (Some are guitar
players, you may get a sale or two).

Can you also post back with your OS version and Service Pack level (I assume
it is XP/SP3).

Regards.

I have a website created in the Publisher Program and IE8 will not display
it
properly. The navigation bars will not display.
http://www.sullysstraps.com

Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

I uploaded IE8 and suddenly a number of my MS Publisher websites Navigation
Bars disappeared! Despite trying everything, I could not see the navigation
bars on the live websites, therefore meaning noone using IE8 would be able to
navigate round my sites. They had been working perfectly under IE7. I can
therefore thoroughly recommend NOT updating to IE8; I had to download Mozilla
Firefox browser to be able to view my websites in their entirity again;
navigation bars are back (and they work) on both websites. Can someone tell
me how is it that Microsoft can muck up its own product by producing another
one - and another one that was not needed in the first place - do they not
have any quality control?? I can understand if Microsofts new product knocked
out the opposition, but this was definitely a home goal!
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Richard Johnson

2009-06-19 03:32:01 UTC

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HI
Rob - you and David helped me a while ago with PB2007 web work and here you
are again with the answer. Thankyou.

I must confess I'm somewhat peeved about the need for such a manual fix
though - 70+ pages is a lot of ungrouping to do each time I want to maintain
my site.

a clarification: If I do the ungrouping manually, then every time I want to
modify the site structure, I presume will now have to either manually re-do
each page or revert to the original "still grouped" file so the wizard can
apply changes to all pages, then redo the ungrouping again and reload the
entire site?

The alternative is I understand, loading SP2 for MSoffice 2007 - that sounds
much more attractive. Have you tried that with a site containing a lot of
wizard generated navigation bars? Does it work reliaby?

I presume it fixes the code issue automatically - is this right.

Lastly - some P2007 web pages currently have the Nav bar OK but some pages
content displays badly (images move under text etc ) I presume this is a
similar bug as it seems only to happen with grouped areas.

Will the P2007 SP fix this too?

FYI, my Website is www.dccconcepts.com

Richard

Dancinlaz

2009-06-12 04:03:01 UTC

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Jimmy in Las Vegas

2009-07-15 20:23:01 UTC

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SOLVED:
I had same problem, I right clicked on NAV BAR in Publisher and selected
"UNGROUP" and all is well. Thank GOD!!!!!!!

John O.

2010-05-19 23:47:01 UTC

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Someone said to post web sites that apparently don't work to this thread. I
think I "Ungrouped" everything like Jimmy did and things seemed to work OK,
but I just heard my web site doesn't work from someone using IE8. I also
heard it appears all messed up when using Firefox or Mozilla. I used MS
Publisher 2007 to create it. The web site is www.cicn.biz. Any
help/confirmation would be much appreciated.
-John

Post by Jimmy in Las Vegas
I had same problem, I right clicked on NAV BAR in Publisher and selected
"UNGROUP" and all is well. Thank GOD!!!!!!!

KCB

2010-05-20 02:04:07 UTC

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Post by John O.
Someone said to post web sites that apparently don't work to this thread. I
think I "Ungrouped" everything like Jimmy did and things seemed to work OK,
but I just heard my web site doesn't work from someone using IE8. I also
heard it appears all messed up when using Firefox or Mozilla. I used MS
Publisher 2007 to create it. The web site is www.cicn.biz. Any
help/confirmation would be much appreciated.
-John

The site above works fine for me with IE8.

rob^_^

2010-05-20 03:36:08 UTC

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You have Vista or Win7.

Post by KCB

The site above works fine for me with IE8.

KCB

2010-05-20 19:54:28 UTC

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Post by rob^_^
You have Vista or Win7.

Windows 7/64-bit, using IE 8 32-bit (8.0.7600.16385) all settings default.
I also tried it with 64-bit IE8, no problems.

rob^_^

2010-05-20 21:20:31 UTC

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There were branches in the IE8 builds for Vista and Win7. The MS Publisher
issues only affects users running XP versions of IE8.

Regards.

Post by KCB

Post by rob^_^
You have Vista or Win7.

Windows 7/64-bit, using IE 8 32-bit (8.0.7600.16385) all settings default.
I also tried it with 64-bit IE8, no problems.

Jean Rosenfeld

2010-05-21 00:16:57 UTC

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The site opened fine with IE 8 on XP pro SP3.

Post by rob^_^
There were branches in the IE8 builds for Vista and Win7. The MS Publisher
issues only affects users running XP versions of IE8.
Regards.

Post by KCB

Post by rob^_^
You have Vista or Win7.

Windows 7/64-bit, using IE 8 32-bit (8.0.7600.16385) all settings
default. I also tried it with 64-bit IE8, no problems.