MS Office Publisher 2007 Web Sites

[rob^_^]

Hi All,

If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.

Can you also please include details:

Publisher version used:

A brief description of the issue you are experiencing:

and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.

Regards.

[rob^_^]

I think this connect ticket may be your workaround.

https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=333905

Regards.

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[rob^_^]

More info gleamed from microsoft.public.publisher

Reference: Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML
output in Internet Explorer 8: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705

This is also fixed with the Office 2007 SP2:

Reference: Description of 2007 Microsoft Office Suite Service Pack 2 (SP2)
and of Microsoft Office Language Pack 2007 SP2:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=953195

If you want a more complete answer, have a follow up question or other
questions about Publisher webs, then please post in the Publisher webdesign
group and we will try to help you there:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.publisher.webdesign
or
http://www.microsoft.com/office/community/en-us/default.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.publisher.webdesign&lang=en&cr=US
DavidF

It has come to my attention that whilst the side menu items on a website I
have created with Publisher 2007 - www.bairnsdalekartclub.com - displays
correctly in IE7, they do not appear when someone loads that website using
the new IE8!
What is the problem there? I have a friend who has downloaded IE8 and has
confirmed that the left menu items are not visible at all. I myself only
have IE7.
The website I have created is going to be useless for people with IE8 as
they will not be able to navigate around the site. Is there any way to
rectify this?
Awaiting your most immediate reply,
Shirley
I think this connect ticket may be your workaround.
https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=333905
Regards.

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[Martine]

I have just found out also my web site created in Publisher does not work
completly in IE8. The same problem many others are having, my navigation
bars do not appear. It is now the first of June and there should be a fix
available by MSFT. I have wondered why my traffic has dropped off. Probably
because everyone that has been led to download IE8 unknowingly cannot
navigate my site. Has there been any improvments/fixes that anyone knows?
Without a lot of hassle?

Thanks

My web site is www.casavidaimports.com I used a template from Publisher 2007
SP1 and my navigation bars do not show.

Post by rob^_^
I think this connect ticket may be your workaround.
https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=333905
Regards.

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[sully]

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[sully]

I have a website created in the Publisher Program and IE8 will not display it
properly. The navigation bars will not display. http://www.sullysstraps.com

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[rob^_^]

Hi Sully,

Thanks for the link.

I can view the menu images and all other images fine on Vista x86 and XP/SP3
IE6, but not on an XP/SP3 IE8 virtual image. The difference is that I have
MS Office installed only on the Vista machine.

You have conditional comments for MS Office

<!--[if gte mso 9]>
and for VML
<!--[if gte vml 1]>

(IE8 on XP is not recognizing these conditional comments, while IE8 on Vista
x86 does. This is an issue/bug.)


To correct your pages for XP machines running IE8.

1. Make a backup of your website somewhere on your computer (FTP it from
your web site)

2. Open up your site in IE8. Start with your homepage... Index.htm

3. Press F12 to display the Developer Tool. You should see that the browser
mode is IE8 and the Document Mode is Quirks. Select the File>Customize
Internet Explorer View Source>Default Viewer to ensure you have the color
coded built-in editor selected.

4. Select View>Source from the IE8 menu to open the Editor.

5. Save a copy of the markup to a text file. From the editor File>Save
Source (select as txt file extension). Open the saved file up with notepad
(default txt file type editor) and display the Source Viewer and Notepad
windows side by side for comparison.

Using the Notepad copy you have to find and delete those sections of code
that are appearing as Green in color in the Source Viewer. viz. those blocks
of code within the <!--[if gte mso 9]> and <!--[if gte vml 1]> conditional
comment blocks.

Once you have removed those blocks, save the notepad version as a htm file
and then ftp it back to your server to over-write your sever copies.

Do the same for all the htm files on your site, nothing else has to change
(images and links etc.).

If this seems too much effort, then you may consider hiring an
under-graduate or student to do it for you. (Print a copy of this thread to
instruct them as to what to do.) There is no real hurry as the uptake of IE8
by users will take some time and your site will currently display fine in
IE6 and 7 and in 8 on Vista. Other browsers (that have a small market share)
are un-affected by conditional comments, they ignore the blocks.

Ultimately though you should upgrade your site using a more modern editing
program. Perhaps another job for a struggling student or maybe your kids.

Can you leave you site unchanged for a week or two? The good folks at MS
will see this thread and may like to test it themselves. (Some are guitar
players, you may get a sale or two).

Can you also post back with your OS version and Service Pack level (I assume
it is XP/SP3).

Regards.

Post by sully
I have a website created in the Publisher Program and IE8 will not display it
properly. The navigation bars will not display.
http://www.sullysstraps.com

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[KISK]

Here's another simple example...www.simonekisiel.com

This was created in Publisher 2007 SP2 MSO (12.0.6425.1000) from a template
within Publisher. When referenced in IE8, the contents are briefly displayed
and then disappear leaving just the background. Works fine in Chrome. Web
Page Preview work fine displaying in IE8. Also tried a very simple page with
a only few words of text with the same result. Thanks.

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[Richard Johnson]

Hi Rob - as requested.... although I have found the workarounds posted here
already... happy to receive comment

Publisher 2007
www.dccconcepts.com
Navbars not visible

regards

Richard

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[Adrienne Boswell]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed =?Utf-8?B?UmljaGFyZCBKb2huc29u?=

Post by Richard Johnson
Hi Rob - as requested.... although I have found the workarounds posted
here already... happy to receive comment
Publisher 2007
www.dccconcepts.com
Navbars not visible

Richard, my suggestion to you is if you are serious about creating web
sites that you get a better tool to do so. The tool you are using now is
fine for print work, newsletters, flyers, etc., but is not for the www.

Your tool is not using a doctype, so the browser (and the validator) has
to guess what's going on. The validator guessed that you were using
XHTML Transitional. There are 896 errors with XHTML and 171 with HTML.

HTML errors: [http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.dccconcepts.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=HTML+
4.01+Transitional&ss=1&outline=1&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%
2F1.654]

XHTML errors: [http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%
2Fwww.dccconcepts.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29
&doctype=Inline&ss=1&outline=1&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654]

Even with using HTML and only 171 errors, there are a lot of serious
errors, eg: the Style element REQUIRES the type attribute (line 22), eg:
<style type="text/css">/*your declarations here*/</style>. Then the
style that your tool is generating is full of proprietary crap.

Your tool should be including an alt attribute for all images, and it's
not. The alt attribute is REQUIRED for the img element.

With all these errors, browsers have a difficult time trying to figure
out what to render. If you can fix the errors, you will have a lot less
trouble getting things to look and work as intended.

[arnold]

my home owners association website doesn't display navigation bars in
internet explorer 8. I have the trial version of microsoft publisher 2007
installed. the url is:
http://hamiltonheightshomeowners.org/

arnold

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[Adrienne Boswell]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed =?Utf-8?B?YXJub2xk?=

Post by arnold
my home owners association website doesn't display navigation bars in
internet explorer 8. I have the trial version of microsoft publisher
http://hamiltonheightshomeowners.org/
arnold

Please do yourself a favor and use a better tool. Publisher is just not
the right job for creating documents for the WWW. It's a great tool for
publishing newsletters, flyers, and other documents for print.

Have a look at some of the WYSIWYG editors reviewed at:
[http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/06/25-wysiwyg-editors-reviewed/]

Post by arnold

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please
post your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or
an Imported Word document.
Regards.

[Donna]

Hi Rob

Yes I have one too - www.eclipsetrainingltd.co.uk

I can't see the left and right navigation buttons on my laptop but it all
appears to be okay from some computers - now I know why, they're not running
IE 8.

Seems crazy that 2 MS products are causing such a problem - you'd think
they'd work well together but I guess not.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

See...

Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML output in
Internet Explorer 8:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by Richard Johnson
Hi Rob
Yes I have one too - www.eclipsetrainingltd.co.uk
I can't see the left and right navigation buttons on my laptop but it all
appears to be okay from some computers - now I know why, they're not running
IE 8.
Seems crazy that 2 MS products are causing such a problem - you'd think
they'd work well together but I guess not.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[ehrabak]

I just tried the suggested fix of ungrouping the navigation bar and it did
not take care of the problem. Any other thoughts?

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
See...
Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML output in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by Richard Johnson
Hi Rob
Yes I have one too - www.eclipsetrainingltd.co.uk
I can't see the left and right navigation buttons on my laptop but it all
appears to be okay from some computers - now I know why, they're not running
IE 8.
Seems crazy that 2 MS products are causing such a problem - you'd think
they'd work well together but I guess not.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Are you running Publisher 2007 SP2 now?

Post by ehrabak
I just tried the suggested fix of ungrouping the navigation bar and it did
not take care of the problem. Any other thoughts?

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
See...
Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML output in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by Richard Johnson
Hi Rob
Yes I have one too - www.eclipsetrainingltd.co.uk
I can't see the left and right navigation buttons on my laptop but it all
appears to be okay from some computers - now I know why, they're not running
IE 8.
Seems crazy that 2 MS products are causing such a problem - you'd think
they'd work well together but I guess not.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[ehrabak]

Yes. I double and triple checked to make sure SP2 had been installed. I
even downloaded it again and told it to reinstall in case it didn't 'take'
but it wouldn't saying that it was already in place.

Not sure what to do......

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
Are you running Publisher 2007 SP2 now?

Post by ehrabak
I just tried the suggested fix of ungrouping the navigation bar and it did
not take care of the problem. Any other thoughts?

Post by PA Bear [MS MVP]
See...
Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML output in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

Post by Richard Johnson
Hi Rob
Yes I have one too - www.eclipsetrainingltd.co.uk
I can't see the left and right navigation buttons on my laptop but it all
appears to be okay from some computers - now I know why, they're not running
IE 8.
Seems crazy that 2 MS products are causing such a problem - you'd think
they'd work well together but I guess not.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post
your web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[ehrabak]

I am also having problems. The website is www.hrabakfuneralhome.com

Publisher 2007

created from a modified template.

I know that there are a lot of other threads talking about this subject and
I hope that a solution can be found soon!

Thank you for your time.

Post by rob^_^
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.

[unknown]

Hi
You asked for examples of Microsoft Publisher websites having problems in ie8.

Ours is at www.empower.coop

The issue is with the menu bar. It displays fine in Firefox. It displays fine on SOME Pc's using ie7 or ie8 but simply does not display on others.

On my laptop it stoped displaying after I upgraded from ie7 to ie8. On my desktop it displays fine even after I upgraded.

I really can't work out why it works on some PC's but not others.

The site was created in ver 2003 from a template.

Geoff



Posted as a reply to:

MS Office Publisher 2007 Web Sites

Hi All,

If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.

Can you also please include details:

Publisher version used:

A brief description of the issue you are experiencing:

and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.

Regards.

EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
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[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Navigation bars and other content is missing from Publisher HTML output in
Internet Explorer 8:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969705
--
~PA Bear
www.screwhardboiledegg.cafe

Post by unknown
Hi
You asked for examples of Microsoft Publisher websites having problems in ie8.
Ours is at www.empower.coop
The issue is with the menu bar. It displays fine in Firefox. It displays
fine on SOME Pc's using ie7 or ie8 but simply does not display on others.
On my laptop it stoped displaying after I upgraded from ie7 to ie8. On my
desktop it displays fine even after I upgraded.
I really can't work out why it works on some PC's but not others.
The site was created in ver 2003 from a template.
Geoff
MS Office Publisher 2007 Web Sites
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.
EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
WCF Workflow Services Using External Data Exchange
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/3d49fa0d-a120-4977-842a-6dafb17b6d74/wcf-workflow-services-usi.aspx

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Post by unknown
Hi
You asked for examples of Microsoft Publisher websites having problems in ie8.
Ours is at www.empower.coop

Looks Ok. Works Ok. ICIM: IE8 on XPsp3.

Post by unknown
The issue is with the menu bar. It displays fine in Firefox. It displays fine on SOME Pc's using ie7 or ie8 but simply does not
display on others.
On my laptop it stoped displaying after I upgraded from ie7 to ie8. On my desktop it displays fine even after I upgraded.
I really can't work out why it works on some PC's but not others.

Try playing with the Developer Tools (F12) for comparing them?
E.g. use the Find tool (Ctrl-b) and try changing attributes.
For example, I think I improved the text "Associate Consultants
and Volunteers" by changing the 12pt to 11pt (at least on my display <w>).
Similarly, I can find the grey shaded box that contains (Find more news...
but I don't know what I would have to do with its attributes to make it wider
or make the text be better centered in it. Etc.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

Post by unknown
The site was created in ver 2003 from a template.
Geoff
MS Office Publisher 2007 Web Sites
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.
EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
WCF Workflow Services Using External Data Exchange
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/3d49fa0d-a120-4977-842a-6dafb17b6d74/wcf-workflow-services-usi.aspx

[rob^_^]

Hi Robert,

Yes, there are build differences between IE8 for Xp and Vista. IE8 Vista
correctly ignores the MSO and VML conditional tags, while IE8 on XP still
honors them.

Regards.

Post by Robert Aldwinckle

Post by unknown
Hi
You asked for examples of Microsoft Publisher websites having problems in ie8.
Ours is at www.empower.coop

Looks Ok. Works Ok. ICIM: IE8 on XPsp3.

Post by unknown
The issue is with the menu bar. It displays fine in Firefox. It displays
fine on SOME Pc's using ie7 or ie8 but simply does not display on others.
On my laptop it stoped displaying after I upgraded from ie7 to ie8. On my
desktop it displays fine even after I upgraded.
I really can't work out why it works on some PC's but not others.

Try playing with the Developer Tools (F12) for comparing them?
E.g. use the Find tool (Ctrl-b) and try changing attributes.
For example, I think I improved the text "Associate Consultants
and Volunteers" by changing the 12pt to 11pt (at least on my display <w>).
Similarly, I can find the grey shaded box that contains (Find more news...
but I don't know what I would have to do with its attributes to make it wider
or make the text be better centered in it. Etc.
HTH
Robert Aldwinckle
---

Post by unknown
The site was created in ver 2003 from a template.
Geoff
MS Office Publisher 2007 Web Sites
Hi All,
If you are a web publisher using MS Publisher 2003 or higher and are
experiencing problems displaying your site in IE8 could you please post your
web site address to this thread for us to have a look at.
and whether or not your site was created from a Web Site Template or an
Imported Word document.
Regards.
EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice
WCF Workflow Services Using External Data Exchange
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/3d49fa0d-a120-4977-842a-6dafb17b6d74/wcf-workflow-services-usi.aspx