IE9 ideas

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IE9 ideas

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goorambatman

2009-11-26 09:57:02 UTC

The best thing Microsoft can do when making IE9 is to make it more compatible
with popular add-ons. It seems every time an ad-on is installed IE becomes a
little slower. A good example of this is the google toolbar, this does slow
IE down quite a bit, particularly with loading the program and loading new
tabs.

Microsoft need to improve add-on integration and work with developers closer
so that IE doesn't become so much slower with the addition of add-ons.

People will always install add-on's, people will always install unnecessary
add-ons and blame IE when things go wrong or run slow.

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Don-Kansas

2009-12-01 03:26:05 UTC

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Presently we have IE8 and here for "IE9 Ideas" I will again offer a request
that has been offered since IE6... Why is there no built in spell checker!?

A third party spell checker is still available and works but for some
reason, MS Dev's want to tweek this and update that and when it comes to
actually adding something new and useful, like a spell checker... DUH!

For some reason Firefox has a built in spell checker, I had a third party
add on for IE7 for years called IE7Pro. It ran the spell checker in real time
for Internet Explorer 7, however with the IE8 upgrade, it no longer works,
disappointing-

Rather than wait for an IE9, once again hoping it will have a spell checker
built in, I may again opt to install a different browser or at the very least
pray that there is a IE8pro arriving shortly that will fill the gap.

rob^_^

2009-12-01 22:09:14 UTC

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Why?

There are freeware and payware addons. MS tries to work with its partners,
not put them out of business.

Another built-in feature increases the support footprint and may put someone
with a working addon out of business.

Regards.

Post by Don-Kansas
Presently we have IE8 and here for "IE9 Ideas" I will again offer a request
that has been offered since IE6... Why is there no built in spell checker!?
A third party spell checker is still available and works but for some
reason, MS Dev's want to tweek this and update that and when it comes to
actually adding something new and useful, like a spell checker... DUH!
For some reason Firefox has a built in spell checker, I had a third party
add on for IE7 for years called IE7Pro. It ran the spell checker in real time
for Internet Explorer 7, however with the IE8 upgrade, it no longer works,
disappointing-
Rather than wait for an IE9, once again hoping it will have a spell checker
built in, I may again opt to install a different browser or at the very least
pray that there is a IE8pro arriving shortly that will fill the gap.

fieseler

2009-12-03 19:45:01 UTC

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I think something IE definatly needs is a built in download manager, sure a
lot of us are on broadband, but if im downloading or uploading large files,
and i need to leave the office, then id rather be able to pause the download
switch off my pc rather than leave my pc on unattended, coz it could be
accessed by anyone while im not there!

Post by goorambatman
The best thing Microsoft can do when making IE9 is to make it more compatible
with popular add-ons. It seems every time an ad-on is installed IE becomes a
little slower. A good example of this is the google toolbar, this does slow
IE down quite a bit, particularly with loading the program and loading new
tabs.
Microsoft need to improve add-on integration and work with developers closer
so that IE doesn't become so much slower with the addition of add-ons.
People will always install add-on's, people will always install unnecessary
add-ons and blame IE when things go wrong or run slow.
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VanguardLH

2009-12-03 20:19:34 UTC

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I think something [that] IE definatly [definitely] needs is a built in
download manager ...

If you are powering down your host, how is a download manager going to help?
Oh, you think all web sites that offer file downloads also include a
"resume" function. Wrong. The server must support the resume function to
restart a download at a certain block within the file. Sites that are
specifically for downloading files often include a resume feature that will
work with download managers. Not every site that lets you download a file
bothers with a resume manager feature. Resume must be implemented at the
server. I gave up on download managers long ago because way too many sites
from where I wanted to retrieve files did not have a resume feature. Some
download managers (I think IDM is one) lets you find out if the site
supports resume (but probably can't detect that until you start a download).

Do you think Microsoft's Windows Firewall is an example of a robust
firewall? Of course not, so if you want something decent you go hunting for
a 3rd party firewall. Yes, some users use MS-Paint but those that are image
artists find far better tools for the job. Would you really care about some
minimalistic download manager that Microsoft dumped into IE versus getting a
decent download manager from a 3rd party?

So you want Microsoft to add something that they have to waste time on to
thoroughly test but which users will pan and ignore and find better
alternatives, anyway.

... rather than leave my pc on unattended, coz it could be accessed by
anyone while im not there!

The login credentials you use when you power up and load Windows are the
same ones used for a password-protected screen saver. If you don't want to
wait until the screen saver kicks in, hit Winkey+L to immediately lock your
workstation. If you believe the login provides you security when you
startup Windows then that same login gives you the same security when
attempting to exit a password-protected screen saver.

Your host is no more protected by the Windows startup login than by a
password-protected screen saver. So it behooves you to use a STRONG
password; see http://www.microsoft.com/protect/fraud/passwords/create.aspx
for an example on creating strong passwords but other schemes will also do.
In fact, you might want to think up an algorithm that uses the domain name
(a portion of it, like the first or last N characters, or a reversed set of
N characters) so that you use a different password at each domain rather
than sharing the same password across all domains.

VanguardLH

2009-12-03 20:27:24 UTC

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How is it Microsoft's fault that 3rd party vendors produce crappy code? The
add-on is a handler. Once the data gets streamed to the add-on, it's the
add-on that dictates how fast or slow it processes that data. If you don't
like Google's Toolbar slowing down your Internet experience then don't use
it. Google's Toolbar is hardly a critical add-on for anyone. It's a
convenience add-on. If it interferes more than it helps then it remain your
choice to continue using it or not. If you install a spell-checking add-on
that repeatedly crashes IE, why would you continue using it? If you install
an add-on whose majority of features are disabled under the new version of
IE that you want to use (IE7Pro as an example when used with IE8), you'll
have to decide if the crashes and crippled features are worth the remaining
features that you do get to use.

Post by goorambatman
Microsoft need to improve add-on integration and work with developers
closer so that IE doesn't become so much slower with the addition of
add-ons.

Microsoft provides the interface. It's not their job to write the code for
the 3rd party's software.

Post by goorambatman
People will always install add-on's, people will always install
unnecessary add-ons

Hence the function of a *general*-purpose operating system.

Post by goorambatman
and blame IE when things go wrong or run slow.

Which seems to also be what you are doing here.

rapscallion7

2010-03-18 00:52:01 UTC

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I think it is up to the creator of the add-on to make the add-on as
compatible as possible with the senior program, which is the browser. The
other way is just backward.

VanguardLH

2010-03-18 01:44:55 UTC

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Yes, it must be Microsoft's fault for poor code in 3rd party software.
Seems you are experienced in deflecting blame to elsewhere. Microsoft
provides the API. It is up the programmer to decide how to use it. There
are good and bad programmers writing these add-ons. Just try finding more
than half a dozen Thunderbird extensions that are still supported, properly
identify the new version of TBird without you having to edit their .xpi
file, and don't conflict with each other.

rob^_^

2010-03-18 02:13:40 UTC

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Post by VanguardLH

geardoom3

2010-03-20 10:29:01 UTC

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I would see a pin for any toolbars at the top and configurable so we can
choose between fast or animated.

Either it's the Favorites bar (Not talking about the same pin Favorites
here) but the BAR
or it's Bing toolbar or MSN toolbar, whatever toolbar it is, we can pin it
so we can have more space for viewing pages but at the same time having our
bars ready to be used.

Not elegant to do F11 each time :(